Showing posts with label planning objections. Show all posts
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Sunday, 19 October 2014

Leeds Trolleybus Enquiry Day 63


Leeds Trolleybus Public Enquiry

Day 63


Wednesday 15th October 2014

The first morning session of Day 63 of the Leeds Trolleybus Public Enquiry, Wednesday 15th October 2014, is taken up with programming matters and the matter of some late documents submitted by the Applicant.

In the mid morning session of Day 63 of the Leeds Trolleybus Public Enquiry, Wednesday 15th October 2014, Ms Katie Lightbody, expert conservation witness for First West Yorkshire, gives her evidence in chief and is examined on it by Gregory Jones QC


In the late morning session of Day 63 of the Leeds Trolleybus Public Enquiry, Wednesday 15th October 2014, Gregory Jones QC concludes his examination of Ms Katie Lightbody, expert conservation witness for First West Yorkshire, and is followed Mr Walton for the Applicant NGT.


In the early afternoon session of Day 63 of the Leeds Trolleybus Public Enquiry, Wednesday 15th October 2014, Gregory Jones QC re-examines Ms Katie Lightbody.

In the late afternoon session of Day 63 of the Leeds Trolleybus Public Enquiry, Wednesday 15th October 2014, the Inspector holds an open round discussion on planning conditions should the TWA Order for the Applicant be granted.

Leeds Trolleybus Enquiry Day 62


Leeds Trolleybus Public Enquiry

Day 62


Tuesday 14th October 2014


The first morning session of Day 62 of the Leeds Trolleybus Public Enquiry, Tuesday 14th October 2014, is taken up with programming matters for some forty minutes. 

In the mid morning session of Day 62 of the Leeds Trolleybus Public Enquiry, Tuesday 14th October 2014, Mr John Reid, local resident, retired planner and private objector gives his evidence against the NGT scheme.  Mrs Jenny Phelps, the operator of a hair and beauty salon on Headingley Lane.

In the late morning session of Day 62 of the Leeds Trolleybus Public Enquiry, Tuesday 14th October 2014, Mr Nabarro gives the case on behalf of Mrs S Baskind, owner of property on Shaw Lane corner and is followed by Cllr Barry Anderson (C) Adel and Wharfedale, who is cross examined on his case.

In the early afternoon session of Day 62 of the Leeds Trolleybus Public Enquiry, Tuesday 14th October 2014, Mr Geoff Steele gives the case on behalf of Dr Ruth Cunliffe for the Adel Association, and Cllr Jonathan Bentley (Cllr for Weetwood) speaks on his own objection and on behalf of his constituents.

In the late afternoon session of Day 62 of the Leeds Trolleybus Public Enquiry, Tuesday 14th October 2014, Mr Nigel Sleeman gives his case against the NGT scheme and is cross examined by both Mr Walton and the Inspector.

Monday, 13 October 2014

Leeds Trolleybus Enquiry Day 60

Leeds Trolleybus Public Enquiry

Day 60

 Thursday 9th October 2014

The links to recordings of all the sessions from the day are included here.

Again I have got a little more behind with things and am now considering that it may be the end of the enquiry before I will be able to 'back blog' the gaps that have crept into this day by day diary of the proceedings.  However, since we do not expect there to even be the Inspector's report by the time of the General Election, it will remain a live political issue for some time to come and so it will be worth the trouble of going back and filling in the gaps.  Apologies to my readers that I am presently unable to give you updates in as near to real time as I have done for the earlier parts of the enquiry, but the audio recordings are the prime concern at present and these blogs are really just tasters to get you to listen to them, so I hope you will, regardless of when I am able to post a considered commentary.

In the first  morning session of Day 60 of the Leeds Trolleybus Public Enquiry, Thursday 9th Oct 2014, retired town planner Mr Tony Ray gives the Heritage case against the NGT scheme on behalf of the North West Leeds Transport Forum.

In the late  morning session of Day 60 of the Leeds Trolleybus Public Enquiry, Thursday 9th Oct 2014, Mrs Helen Pickering gives the Heritage case against the NGT scheme on behalf of the Drummond and Churchwoods Residents’ Association.

In the afternoon session of Day 60 of the Leeds Trolleybus Public Enquiry, Thursday 9th Oct 2014, Mrs Helen Pickering completes the Heritage case of the Drummonds and Churchwoods Residents’ Association against the trolleybus scheme and is then cross examined by Mr Walton for the Applicant NGT and then by both Inspectors.

Wednesday, 3 September 2014

Leeds Trolleybus Enquiry Day 41


Leeds Trolleybus Public Enquiry

Day 41

 Tuesday 2nd September 2014

The Enquiry resumed today after the summer break.  The greater part of the day was taken up with the completion of the examination of Mr Steve Speak on the matter of planning issues around the NGT proposals.  When that had been completed the final session was given over to the first witness for the Objectors, Mr Chris Cheek, a gentleman with a lifetime’s experience working in transport, who presented his evidence in chief.

Audio recordings  of all five of today’s sessions are linked below and I follow with this with some commentary on both the day’s proceedings and other matters around the trolleybus proposals and enquiry.


In the first morning session of the Day 41 of the Leeds Trolleybus Public Enquiry, Tuesday 2nd September 2014, the Enquiry resumes after the summer break with Gregory Jones QC, for First (Bus) West Yorkshire cross examining Mr Steve Speak who is representing Leeds City Council on Planning matters concerning the NGT trolleybus proposals.

In the late morning session of Day 41 of the Leeds Trolleybus Public Enquiry, Tuesday 2nd September 2014 Gregory Jones QC continues to cross examine Mr Steve Speak on Planning considerations regarding the NGT scheme, in this session concentrating on planning guidelines around heritage assets and damage to them.


In the early afternoon session of Day 41 of the Leeds Trolleybus Public Enquiry, Tuesday 2nd September 2014 Gregory Jones QC concludes his cross examination of Mr Steve Speak on Planning considerations regarding the NGT scheme.

In the brief mid afternoon session of Day 41 of the Leeds Trolleybus Public Enquiry Mr Steve Speak concludes his session as witness when he is re-examined by Neil Cameron QC for the Applicant NGT.


In the late afternoon session of Day 41 of the Leeds  Trolleybus Public Enquiry, Public Transport expert Mr Cheek gives his evidence in chief for First West Yorkshire and is then cross examined by Gregory Jones QC.


Today dealt with a lot of technical detail about planning policy such as Core Strategy, the Unitary Development Plan and how the Heritage policies affected the preservation of heritage along the route.

It took a little while to work into the detail and implications of these, so the reader may wish to get the detail from the recordings, but there were several points which I picked out which seemed problematic for the Applicant.

These not only clustered around conflicts with established policies and so forth, but I would suggest that the credibility of the witness was to some extent brought into question.

For instance, Mr Speak didn’t know that the ‘Stated Preference Test’ had produced a result of ‘no stated preference for tbus’.  He couldn’t recall being told this or not by his team.  One would have thought that a planner responsible for overseeing a scheme like this would at least have looked at the passenger preferences and how they might factor into the viability of the proposals, but apparently not.

A similar shortcoming was apparent with regard to the harm that Mr Philip Ward (Heritage) had admitted would be caused to listed structures, and which was against the National Planning Policy Framework (NPPF) guidelines which recognised statutory protection for listed buildings.  He was obliged to consider the conflict with Heritage policies in UDP but had to admit that he hasn’t carried out a review of that conflict.

Again and again from Mr Speak we have heard how he likes to take everything ‘in the round’ or with a ‘rounded view’.  This seems to be his stock fall back phrase, just as previous witnesses have repeatedly ‘taken a view’ (I think that was Mr Hanson) or ‘made the judgement that’ (Mr Haskins if I recall correctly).  He seems to constantly want to stand back and look at The Big Picture and not be concerned with the details, the contraventions of guidelines, agreed policies on heritage and the like.

This has consistently been a characteristic of the NGT case, in which the proponents have deviated from WebTAG guidance for instance (Mr Hanson again) but in no way will acknowledge that this is an improper way to proceed.

A little debate that blew for a while between Mr Jones and Mr Speak was about the question of whether NGT could really be considered ‘rapid transport’ as it tries to portray itself.  One admires the research team who winkle out such details as the fact that in August 2013, just a year ago (when the scheme was already in the pipeline for a TWAO application), the word ‘fast’ was removed from the ‘vision statement for NGT’ by Chairman of Metro Kieran Preston.

If the chief executive of Metro finds it necessary to remove such an important word as ‘fast’ then one might assume that the word ‘rapid’ would also be inapplicable, being synonyms.

Mr Speak tried to insist that despite not being fast it was, nonetheless ‘rapid’; however, it wouldn’t need the scalpel like precision of Mr Jones’s analytic technique to see that while the ‘Vision’ document claimed that it may be ‘key to create a Rapid Transport system’ (in their view) nonetheless even that document did not claim that it was a ‘rapid’ system itself.  In other words, the document put it forward as part of a jigsaw, rather than the whole picture when it came to a rapid transport system.

This touched on the issue of interconnectivity, which was discussed in more detail by Mr Cheek later.  However, Mr Speak was reluctant to acknowledge what seemed as plain as a pikestaff, that something which might contribute to an overall rapid transport system but which was not ‘fast’ could neither be ‘rapid’ either.

As to whether the overall system would end up being rapid ~ well you would need to have it integrated systematically into the other transport systems (buses, train stations) in Leeds for that to work, especially as the trolleybus itself would not be ‘fast’ ~ Mr Cheek in his evidence in chief pointed out that although interconnectivity has been a concept which has been floated since the late 1970s, nonetheless, NGT had given no evidence that they had actually done any work on making their system interconnective. 

In other words, if I may be so bold, it would seem to me that the ‘Vision’ that the trolleybus would be part of a ‘rapid transport system’ was a load of spin that they had no intention of making any attempt at actualising.  One is reminded also of the fact that great store has been placed on the separateness of the NGT system from others, especially buses which it would not share the same stops with, and so would be distinctly uninterconnective.

Along the way he had managed to claim that congestion on the A660 would only get worse if NGT was not implemented, while it has actually been admitted earlier that it would probably create more congestion as a result of priority lanes and ‘traffic stacking’.

One last point which came up before Mr Speak’s examination was over, was among a short series of questions put by the Inspector, Mr Whitehead.  He asked whether the witness had taken into account that Monument Moor was the start of the famous Dales Way, an ancient pathway.  Mr Speak was apparently unaware of this, and it was clear from the Inspector that he considered that he should have been.

I am sure that this will be gratifying to Mr Bill McKinnon and the Friends of Woodhouse Moor, whom he has represented at the enquiry, since he has drawn a lot of attention to Monument Moor, which has been shamefully neglected by Leeds City Council over the years, in what one might suspect is a cynical ploy to reduce the value of this historic piece of land in the eyes of local citizens order to make it easier for them to take part of it for a trolleybus lane.

Moving on to the evidence in chief of Mr Chris Cheek for First West Yorkshire, you will find the expert testimony of a gentleman who has spent his whole adult working life engaged with transport issues.  He has sat behind Mr Jones for most of the enquiry so far and has clearly had his mind well focussed on the issues.

He brought into question just about every aspect of the NGT scheme that I could think of.  Most particularly he asserted that the passenger estimates were not realistic.  I am reminded of how we were told some while back one of the witnesses had said that the passenger journey estimates for the original scheme, that included a route to St James’s and Seacroft, which had been in the region of six or seven million per annum had roughly been doubled to about twelve million or so when the eastern spurs had been dropped.  I may only be a layperson, but my maths is good enough to know that  something there doesn’t add up.  And Mr Cheek seemed to think that estimates of such matters had been exaggerated.

Moving on to the logistics of implementation, it would be ‘cumbersome’ and immensely expensive to introduce the infrastructure, and we were reminded that the introduction of further routes would each require a TWAO before they could be implemented (the spectre of further public enquiries loomed over the chamber), while a new bus route or service could be put in place at 56 days notice.  He brought attention to the fact that bus services such as the 28 and 97 might not be able to survive and so the residents of Weetwood and Adel could be without a bus, or at least suffer reduced frequency of service.

Again and again the flimsy justifications of the NGT consultants were brought down, as Mr Cheek identified that scores of trolleybus schemes around the world were being closed, and even such places as Wellington (longest running trolleybus system in the world) were abandoning them.  The ‘visual pollution’ of the overhead lines was even being reviewed by Geneva, who are about to trial more flexible quick charging buses.

If you want to know more about why the tide is turning away from trolleybuses you could do worse than listen to the final session of today’s recordings.

While on the subject of the recordings, I should say that there may be slight delays in the posting of these important documents over the next few weeks, which without disclosing the trade secrets as to how we make them, I will simply say is down to the logistics of the matter.  However, our dedicated team of Objectors are determined to take down every word that is uttered at the Public Enquiry, or at least as near as is humanly possible, and we shall get them posted on the mixcloud site as quickly as we can.

As the value of these recordings becomes ever greater, I have heard many objectors say how disgraceful it is that neither NGT nor the Council have made any effort to compile a public record, and we are astonished that the Inspector does not have a secretary or stenographer to make a written record.  Neither is there any reporter from the media routinely assigned to even make a précis for public consumption.  In the event, the Objectors' recordings, which I have the privilege to manage, are the only document of all this on the public record.  This behaviour on the part of Metro and LCC would seem to me to be an attempt to stifle awareness of these important proceedings.  However, the powers that like to think they are cannot stifle the truth in the information age.

Well there is a lot more I could add about yesterday’s proceedings and the ongoing campaign to stop the trolleybus but I have probably written enough for today so I shall leave you until the next time.

Friday, 18 July 2014

Leeds Trolleybus Enquiry Day 36


Leeds Trolleybus Enquiry Day 36

18 July 2014

Today in response to requests I have re-ordered the way the title listings are written on the Mixcloud site where the audio recordings of the Public Enquiry are hosted.

The titles will now begin with the day number and sessions are given a letter, hence the first session of day 36 reads: Day 36a  since some people were finding that the date and session listing were not fitting onto their screens and therefore weren't able to find the one they were looking for.

I have also made up an archive list of links that I will post as a blog so that they are all there in one place.  I intend in due course to also add the blurbs from this blog to each link, but that is a lot more work.

So here are the links for today's sessions given for the first time in the new format, I hope it is helpful to potential listeners.

Commentary on the day will be added shortly



In the first morning session of Day 36 of the Leeds Trolleybus Planning Enquiry 18 July 2014 the day begins with more discussion on the ongoing situation with letters being exchanged with respect to the submission of the 370 page Heritage technical document. Following this Neil Cameron QC takes Mr Speak of Planning through his evidence in Chief.



On the late morning session of Day 36 of the Leeds Trolleybus Public Enquiry 18 July 2014 Neil Cameron QC completes his examination on Mr Speak's evidence in chief for Planning and then is followed by Mr Tony Ray who cross examines Mr Speak for the North West Leeds Transport Forum.


In the afternoon session of Day 36 of the Leeds Trolleybus Enquiry, 18 July 2014, the cross examination of Mr Speak for the Planning Policy on which the Trolleybus scheme rests is cross examined by Dr John Dickinson for Weetwood Resident's Association.

Monday, 7 July 2014

Leeds Trolleybus Enquiry Day 32


Leeds Trolleybus Enquiry Day 32 

June 27  2014



Day 32 of the Enquiry saw the arrival of Mr Thomas Walker who was cross examined on the subject of the impact that NGT would have on the landscape and amenity along the proposed route of the trolleybus.

Links to audio streaming of the day’s three sessions are given here.  Many thanks to Dawn Carey Jones for today’s recordings.


In the first morning session of Day 32 of the Leeds Trolleybus Enquiry, June 27 2014, Mr Thomas Walker responsible for the landscape plans for the NGT route sets out the evidence in chief with Mr Walton taking him through his statement and summary.


In the late morning session of day 32 of the Leeds Trolleybus Public Enquiry, June 25 2014 Mr John Reid cross examines Mr Thomas Walker on the landscape design case for the applicants, NGT



In the afternoon session of day 32 of the Leeds Trolleybus Public Enquiry, firstly Mr Tony Ray, retired Town Planner, for the North West Leeds Transport Forum, and finally Mr Doug Kemp of West Park Resident's Association, cross examine Mr Thomas Walker on the landscape proposals for the NGT route should it be implemented.
The Enquiry now breaks for two weeks and the next session will be on Tuesday 15 July 2014 at 10am.

Due to the demanding nature of the second month of the Public Enquiry I have yet to write commentary on Day 32, but it will be added before the resumption on 15th July.

Tuesday, 20 May 2014

Leeds Trolleybus Enquiry Day 13

Leeds Trolleybus Enquiry Day 13

May 20  2014




Today saw Mr Jason Smith finishing his stint as a witness for the Applicant for the Transport Works Order, NGT.  Cross examination began with Mr Bill McKinnon for Friends of Woodhouse Moor and North Hyde Park Neighbourhood Association, who was followed by Gregory Jones QC for the remainder of the morning and the early part of the afternoon.  After Mr Jones the Inspector asked Mr Smith some questions and the last session was spent with Neil Cameron QC giving the final examination for the Applicant.



Jones really hit home today and I have been fascinated listening back to his cross examination on behalf of the Leeds College of Art.   This begins a short way into the second of the audios listed below, and if you are limited for listening time and need to cherry pick, the middle hour of that one is pure gold.



My commentary on today’s proceedings follows these links to audios of all today’s sessions.






In the first morning session of day 13 of the Leeds Trolleybus Enquiry, May 20 2014, Mr Bill McKinnon of Friends of Woodhouse Moor and North Hyde Park Neighbourhood Association continues his cross examination of Highways Engineer Mr Jason Smith on important details of the proposed NGT route on issues of shared space and the BRT (Bus Rapid Transit) Standard 2013 relevant to the proposed NGT trolleybus scheme.








In the late morning session of day 13 of the Leeds trolleybus Public Enquiry, May 20 2014, Bill McKinnon of Friends of Woodhouse Moor and North Hyde Park Neighbourhood Association cross examines Jason Smith, Highways Engineer on shared space and future proofing of the proposed system.






In the early afternoon session of day 13 of the Leeds Trolleybus Enquiry, May 20 2014, Gregory Jones QC for the Leeds College of Art continues his cross examination of Jason Smith, Highways Engineer with regard to, among other concerns, factors of safety, capacity and flow speed which would affect the College and the roads approaching it in the vicinity including Woodhouse Lane and Blenheim Walk.







As those who read my blog yesterday will know I was critical of Jason Smith’s long drawn out answers.  Today Gregory Jones brought him to heel with his cross examination on behalf of Leeds College of Art.



It is most instructive to watch a really good cross examination.  To hear him pinning his quarry into corner and getting him to admit that the proposed scheme was not one that was good for the College despite the endless prevarications and evasions was most satisfying.  It was quite staggering really to hear how the College had received no consultation from NGT before the original compulsory purchase order or the revised land take plan that was substituted after the formal objection was made. 



At one point Mr Jones said that it was quite clear that Mr Smith was equivocating and attempting not to answer the question



It is always interesting to notice when the Inspector asks a witness a question, especially when it is to ask the witness to answer the question that they have been trying to evade for the last few minutes while their gaze darts about, at least metaphorically, as they look for a way out of their predicament.  

'So, er.. what we did was....'  'Please answer the question Mr Smith, 'Did you or did you not engage in consultation with the College of Art on the design, 'Yes' or 'No'?' 

Eventually Mr Smith passed the buck back to Dave Haskins, NGT Project Director, about what consultations had or had not taken place.  Mr Smith appeared to be under the impression that they had, but could not give dates and so had to refer to his superior.  Mr Jones said that he had quite clear instructions from his client on this matter that there had been no design consultation before January this year.



Jason Smith came out of this very badly so far as I could tell as not only Mr Jones but the Inspector too had to press him hard to give a straight answer to all of this.



Following the mid afternoon break the examination continued around traffic issues on Blenheim Walk, the road in front of the College, and flow around the block between here and Woodhouse Lane.  The astonishing fact emerged that in this very complex zone, which includes a ‘pedestrian dominated’ area, no safety, capacity or flow assessments for the new road layouts and introduced trolleybuses had taken place. 



The day was filled with these kind of facts being extracted from the NGT witness and I was pleased to see that Mr Jones was firm in preventing the answers from spinning out into the lengthy digressions we have seen in previous days.  

I was however concerned at what appeared to me to be a deliberate obfuscation that was made after Gregory Jones had completed his examination and during the Inspector’s questions which followed.  The subject of the corner of Victoria Road corner which is proposed to be demolished and replaced with a larger road junction was raised by the Inspector, who stated that he was concerned about the amount of demolition proposed.  This is the small row of low rent business premises and the old petrol station adjacent which is also a business on Headingley Lane.  But there is also a fine Victorian red brick semi-detached villa behind these, facing out South onto Victoria Road, I believe it is no.2 Victoria Road, which they purpose to destroy along with the rest.



No mention was made of this building, which the Inspector may not have seen when he cycled along the route as part of his own evidence gathering, as it is not on Headingley Lane itself.  The three buildings were referred to by Mr Smith as ‘one property’, taking advantage of the fact that the three buildings, and their three plots of land have been acquired by the Council/Metro and so are held by one freeholder.  However I would suggest that it is misleading to refer to these as ‘one property’.



Mr Smith’s evidence giving has seemed to rely heavily on people not noticing that he can be economical with the truth on occasion.  This last was to me a blatant attempt to hide the fact that a fine Victorian building in both good repair and use would be lost forever, a fact that the Inspector should know.  It is unfortunate that the structure of the proceedings allows little opportunity to intervene on a point of order so as to correct or clarify a statement such as this, and the other day the Inspector took a member of the public to task for ‘shouting out’ as he put it.



I trust that an opportunity will present itself to introduce this fact into the information revealed as the various other cross examinations go forward, but it is most regrettable that the Inspector should have had the misleading idea infiltrated into his mind that there is only ‘one property’.  I think we know that a property is a building and that separate buildings on separate plots should be clearly distinguished.

This was immediately noticed and discussed by several objectors in the following break.


The objectors have had a fair number of what seemed to us good days, and a few where less obvious progress was made, but today was one of those days when it really felt that NGT had been exposed as not responsibly engaging with those people it would affect most, and shilly shallying when their failures to do their proper groundwork were in danger of being brought to light.



In the first couple of weeks the objectors joked that we would welcome the last day of the Enquiry when all the buck passed questions would be answered by the final witness.  But now we have back passing of the buck as Mr Jones said at one point.



I am pleased to see that the Inspector does appear to have picked up on Mr Smith and his evasive ways in answering questions.  And we have to trust that he will give this kind of less tangible evidence weight in his deliberations.

Monday, 19 May 2014

Leeds Trolleybus Enquiry Day 12


Leeds Trolleybus Enquiry Day 12
May 19  2014


An extra afternoon sitting of the Enquiry was arranged for today for two reasons.  Firstly the timetable has been slipping behind and I believe the Inspector wanted to regain some time where possible, and at the same time, Mr Bill McKinnon of The Friends of Woodhouse Moor and the North Hyde Park Neighbourhood Association, who was timetabled to cross examine Mr Jason Smith, Highways Engineer on technical design features and engineering standards, was only available in a narrow window, and so these two factors converged.

The links to the audios of this afternoon’s two session are below, and as usual my commentary and thoughts on today’s proceedings follow.

In the first part of the extra afternoon sitting which took place on day 12 of the Leeds Trolleybus Enquiry, May 19 2014, Bill McKinnon of The Friends of Woodhouse Moor and North Hyde Park Neighbourhood Association cross examines Jason Smith, Highways Engineer on many details of the Highways work associate with the NGT trolleybus scheme.

In the late afternoon session of day 12 of the Leeds Trolleybus Enquiry, Bill McKinnon, of The Friends of Woodhouse Moor and North Hyde Park Neighbourhood Association continues his cross examination of Jason Smith, Highways Engineer, concentrating on issues including the regulations concerning trolleybuses and areas which may be 'pedestrian dominated' rather than actually pedestrianised.

The trolleybus enquiry continues to wade through mountains of data.  At present the stream is on the technical nature of the road changes that would be made if the NGT scheme were to be implemented and why they have been designed in the particular way that they have.  While on the one hand I would definitely urge readers to dip into the archive of the Leeds Trolleybus Enquiry audios we have accumulated, at the same time I feel there is often a danger of getting lost in amidst all that detail.
The Inspector has found many occasions to chide objectors in their questioning style, and for going on at too much length but while this may be deserved one must remember that most of the objectors are laypeople who are coming at both the technicalities of the engineering and participation at a Public Enquiry as a new experience.

On the other hand I am beginning to feel that our current witness, Jason Smith, is going on at too much length and often failing to get to the point after very long peregrinations.  Indeed it was the case that on several occasions the Inspector appeared to slightly lose patience with him and ask him come to the point.  A good example of this was when the condition of Woodhouse Lane in front of the Parkinson Building was debated and Bill McKinnon was able to winkle out the fact that the area would only be described as ‘pedestrian dominated’ which was to be distinguished from actually being ‘pedestrianised’ because the Inspector enquired of Mr Smith, in effect: ‘Well is it pedestrianised or isn’t it?’  It seemed to me that there were elements  of sophistry and evasion being employed in the way these conditions were being described.

The first and most obvious effect of this is that the cross examinations are going on much longer than expected.  Mr McKinnon originally gave his estimate for how long he would need as two hours or so, but after a full afternoon he is perhaps half way through what he has prepared.  He cannot be held entirely to blame for the drawn out nature of the proceedings, and the extreme length of some of Mr Smith’s replies must surely need to be curbed.  The absurd fourteen minutes and thirty five seconds which he took to answer a simple question from Mrs Fahey the other day comes to mind as an example of such a thing.

Also Mr Smith seems to have almost over rehearsed his replies, running on with his explanations, not allowing pause for the questioner to make a response.  The Inspector has rightly come down on questioners who have interrupted the witnesses and has imposed a good discipline on this, but I think it is one that Mr Smith in particular has exploited and taken advantage of unfairly.  It is a psychological war of attrition, and a cunning way to make the questioner look bad when it is the witness who is actually wasting time.  I wouldn’t be surprised to hear murmurings of ‘Get on with it’ from the audience, at least in private, before long if this kind of thing is repeated too often.

While I am mentioning psychological war, I would like to take the opportunity to mention another more subtle technique that some of the NGT witnesses appear to be schooled in. You may notice sometimes if you listen critically, that virtually all statements made by NGT are couched in the future tense.  ‘This will happen.’  ‘There will be such and such tree loss.’ ‘The NGT land will run on Woodhouse Moor.’

All these type of assertions are presented as statements of fact as if they are certain to happen.  Presenting something as certain to happen when it is not, and repeating it, is a kind of attempted perceptual control that is an application of Neuro-Linguistic Programming.


Neuro-Linguistic Programming is a technique of restructuring thought according to the way reality is presented in linguistic terms and has been understood and used by the purveyors of propaganda for many years.

This is what is being done when the NGT people speak about this in definite terms.  They are attempting to infiltrate into your unconscious the assumption of inevitability. Often the ‘worm’ assumption is hidden behind more attention grabbing stuff, such as the actual data about the roads and documents etc., that we are supposed to be paying attention to anyway.  So the definite future is ignored at a conscious level, but recognised at the unconscious level.  It happens again and again, and yet is not challenged by the conscious mind, so it embeds as an accepted assumption. 

People say things like ‘the Council are going to do it anyway, you won’t be able to stop it’.  And while it is certainly the case that the Council want to make the trolleybus happen, I believe there are enough committed people who are determined that it will not happen, and that they have such a wide variety of justifications, that there may be a fascinating battle of wills going on, but the implementation of the trolleybus is by no means certain at all.

Couching all their terms in the definite future is not only a sly way to twist people’s perceptions, but also monstrous hubris that stands on its own regardless.

They have massively over egged the pudding and are presenting a damaging proposal as if it were the future saviour of Leeds.  This is why they seek to get us lost in their endless detail and forget that there is a city and communities at stake here.  If people and trees and the history Leeds didn’t matter, then this would probably be a great cattle truck.  But the communities and heritage and environment do matter and that is what the infra-structure should be for, to support all that functionally, not dominate and take over so that it destroys them. 

For the people in Metro their plans are more important than the people who would be trampled in their way. 

If the trolleybus went ahead, the Council would doubtless declare that the operation was a success, but when you looked closer you would find that the patient had died on the operating table.